Hello!

You said: "I know that our brains as soon as they have learned a part of our language they certainly know some grammar and know enough if what they hear belongs to their learned language." - I think that's exactly the point.

"...as they have learned..." - the brain learns how the language sounds. it learns in which order the words should be spoken! You are right, when you say that a neuron doesn't learn rules but the brain generalizes the language. (thats a little bit fuzzy - i know! :-)
so the brain doesn't really learn the grammer rules, but it learns when to write a subject or a verb to get a right "sounding" wordorder/sentence.

isn't the languagepart the most important part of an AI? When i program the grammer rules, the programm has at the input a language which it doesn't understand and at the output it gets a "language" which the ai can interpret more or less - because its my internal language and not the internal language of the ai. i think that the language interface should mostly be programmed or learned by the ai itsself so that it can design its own internal language. - hope anyone can understand what I'm trying to say!

the programmed language interface is like a "prison" for the ai.

ciao martin

ps.: when you think of an apple you can see a picture of an apple, you know how the word sounds and how it is written - apples are sometimes red, sometimes green. what we also can say is, that the word apple is a subject. maybe the brain can understand language better when it gets the relationship that every subject has attributes (a red apple, a big apple).....

I don't think grammar is the most important part of an AI. I think reasoning abilities are. I've finished setting up Arckon's new memory access system as a C++ program, and the basic grammar rules (no past tense, no multiple subjects). Took me four days, but this time, I feel like I'm working on an empty shell. The whole grammar thing does get in the way, as it is slowing down the important progress. I hope the new memory system isn't too slow. it works by accessing a lot of text files and loading their contents into temporary variables, like a list.
It can't speak yet, nor conclude, which Arckon could in his previous Javascript form. But I'll get to that.

I have to agree, that reasoning abilities are a very big part of an aritifical lifeform. What I thougt was, that this abilities could be restricted by the hard coded language rules.
Some Questions: How is your project going on? What kind of input and outputs do you use? Are there posibilities to use a videocamera as an inputdevice? Do you use a plugin system to add new abilities or functions?

Martin

yes, they might be. that's why I'm taking as many language shortcuts as I can find.
My project's hardly going as fast as I'd want it. It's been half a year since I started recoding Arckon into c++ programming, and I've worked a total of 9 days on it now. I'm still on grammar. I have nearly completed the grammar rules to recognise and filter multiple possessive words (like: "my father's father's father's etc.") and other specifications.
Input is simply text via my keyboard. as for output; for the moment, I reverted back to having simple messages pop up on the screen. his sentence-formulation functions have not been recoded into c++ code yet.
I am not integrating any other systems yet, though I have thought up a new system I could put in that will allow Arckon to formulate his own subroutines that he learns from experience.